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Unbelievers Knowing and Not Knowing God

Here is a great citation from the late Dr. Greg Bahnsen on unbelievers knowing and not knowing God.

We will take Sam as our hypothetical unbeliever. When we say that Sam does not believe in (or know) God, we are describing him according to certain features of his behavior and thinking: for example, his moral conduct and attitudes, his refusal to glorify God, and especially his profession not to believe in God. After all, Sam acts and talks like a person who sincerely disbelieves; indeed, he argues vehemently against believing in God’s existence. However, the fact of the matter is that Sam actually does believe in God. When we say that he believes in God, we are (in accordance with the diagnosis of God’s word) describing him according to certain features of his behavior and thinking that manifest belief: for example, his living in terms of some kind of moral standards, his acceptance of the need for logical consistency, his expectation of uniformity in nature, his fear of death, and his assuming of freedom of thought. As in the case of believers, we say that Sam knows God in the sense that he has justified, true beliefs about Him. So then, it turns out that Sam’s belief in his own unbelief is mistaken. He rationalizes evidence, motivated by his desire to avoid facing up to God, whose condemnation he fears and whose authority over him he resents. Nevertheless, he sincerely and constantly pursues unbelief as his self-deluded life’s project.

It thus appears that the unbeliever works with two different sets of fundamental beliefs or presuppositions, one acknowledged and another unacknowledged (or denied) – one that makes his regulating ideal, and the other which makes it possible to know anything. He inescapably knows the truth (one set of beliefs) and yet suppresses it (endorsing a second set of beliefs). Van Til’s Apologetic, 451

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What does Athens have to do with Jerusalem? Presuppositional Apologetics

No, apologetics does not mean that you are apologizing or saying that you are sorry. The word apologetics is derived from the Greek word apologia which is translated into English as apologetic, defense, reason or answer. In 1 Peter 3:15 Peter exhorts us to “always be ready to give an apologetic of the hope that is within us.” Therefore, we are all called to always be ready to articulate what we believe and why we believe it. The greatest example of this in the Bible is found in Acts 17 where Paul has an apologetic encounter with the Greek Philosophers of Athens. We can learn a lot from Paul’s dialogue at Mars Hill on how we should engage in apologetics. As a matter of fact, numerous methods of apologetics have emerged throughout the centuries as theologians have looked and examined this particular text. Some of these methods include evidential/classical apologetics, fideistic apologetics and presuppositional apologetics. Each of these methods are useful, but I personally feel that the presuppositional approach does a better job of being consistent with scripture. For more information on presuppositional apologetics I would direct you to the works of Greg Bahnsen and Cornelius Van Til.

With that being said, In this audio clip Jamin Hubner critiques Greg Koukl’s view on the presuppositional approach. If you are not familiar with Greg Koukl, he is a classical apologist who has produced amazing works in the area of apologetics which I have personally benefited from. Sometimes certain views get caricatured by those who hold to opposing positions due to the fact that their knowledge of the other person’s view is no more than just a superficial Google search. But what you will hear now is two Christian brothers accurately and lovingly critique each others apologetic methodology, but I would like for you to notice the weight of the presuppositional approach in comparison to the classical method.

Click here to listen to the audio: http://www.realapologetics.org/podcasts/?p=260http://www.realapologetics.org/podcasts/?p=260

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