To keep on with our Mark Driscoll Theme, watch as Mark Driscoll gives a great teaching on Calvinism & Arminianism.
Leave a comment with your thoughts on his teachings or your thoughts on Calvinism/Arminianism.
He, being Calvinist (as he claimed in the clip), did not present Arminian position accurately. Please refer to the following link:
I’m not either! In my opinion, too much time is wasted on such discussions. The purpose of fellowship and discussions on the Word is to edify one another and correct one another. Not to stir up dissension. I am tired of the division these discussions create. I just feel like in the end of the day, God is God and we are people. There might be things that we will never know but our place is to be obedient to Him alone and apply His word to our day to day lives. I am a Christian. I love God. That’s it.
I would also not place myself in neither group but I do believe its worth talking and learning about. If you watched the video, Mark Driscoll says it perfectly in the video “We will debate this with you but we wont divide over this with you over this.” This is something that should be able to be spoken amongst Christians without causing dissensions or division. Mike holds strongly to the 5 Points of Calvinism and we are able to have discussions all the time without ever causing dissension. If you are seeing division created over this I would say that PRIDE is the cause not Calvinism or Arminianism.
Well said Ricky, I agree 100% with you. I would also add that if there is some division being caused over this it would be safe to say that it stems from a lack of knowledge of how the 2 systems work.
Ricky wants to name his son Jacob. It all makes sense now, lol totally kidding. The two have nothing to do with each other.
When first presented, Calvinism had a bad taste in my mouth because all I saw was pride, but now I see it in a completely different light. I am not Calvinist, but truly respect how they love God’s word. I love both team members, haha.
This was helpful. Thank you.
I liked the video, probably because I’m a Calvinist. LOL!
John Wesley was very opposed to the doctrine of Predestination. He saw many problems with the doctrine of double predestination, which he believed that one could not avoid if they believed that God determined if propole are unequivocally saved or damned.
A good discussion of this is in the book “John Wesley, Natural Man, and the ‘Isms'”. It also discusses the relation of Wesley’s doctrine of prevenient grace as it related to the doctrine of predestination.
The book also discusses the mistakes that Wesley finds in Judaism, Roman Catholicism, Quakerism, Deism and Mysticism and whether or not they can be saved.
Read and enjoy the book. There is a readers guide in the back of the book with questions and answers.
Thank you for commending this book, John Wesley was a great man of God. I do notice something wrong though, instead of pointing out the mistakes of Judaism, Quakerism, Deism, Catholicism, and Mysticism he should also pointed out the Biblical inconsistencies of Arminianism as well. Just a thought…
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